Warning: Engine oil in the 2019 - 2018 7th Gen MK7 VW Jetta Forum
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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 08-24-2018, 11:48 AM Thread Starter
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Warning: Engine oil in the 2019

Getting to 10000 km, which in my mind means overdue for the first oil change (no way I'm doing 15k, roughly 10,000 miles that the computer says).


Unfortunately, can't get a dealer appointment that fits my schedule. But that's okay, I prefer to check with the local "community" to find a specialist independent in the area that I can trust for routine stuff (and, post-warranty, everything), and I'm pointed to the top-rated place in the area. So far, so good.


So these guys live up to their name. The "database" for the 2019 Jetta's 1.4T says to use the same old 5w20 used in previous incarnations. It's supposedly the same oil filter.


But, when their mechanic popped the hood, he noticed this rather innocuous sticker at the front. The 2019 variant demands a brand new oil, specifying "VW 508" and "SAE 0w20".


Apparently none of the independent oil vendors have this magic oil ... yet. It's only available from the VW dealers. My guy's going to get some in (mine was the first 2019 he's seen so far), but for this first run I'm stuck going to the dealer.


Just wanted to raise the caveat for those who also want to avoid the dealers for oil changes. Some places may not notice (or care about) the sticker, go by what their computer says, and put in the "wrong" stuff.


How "wrong" the 5w20 stuff is would be open for spirited debate. :-)
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 08-27-2018, 09:36 AM
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Typical move from VW to force new owners into their dealerships. I can't really imagine there is anything special about this new oil, that the 5W20 doesn't match. I'm betting that its also considerably more expensive?
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post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old 08-29-2018, 09:50 AM
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I try to avoid going to the dealership for regular maintenance, so thanks for the heads up. I expect that availability of this unique oil will increase as more vehicles that use it hit the market. Is it synthetic?
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post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 08-30-2018, 08:52 AM
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Well that sounds a bit frustrating. Guess it doesn't hurt to get your first maintenance done at the dealer. Maybe you could inquire as to what's so unique about it.
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post #5 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-07-2019, 10:31 AM
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0W-20 is common

Hi,
New to the forum...
Just to mention the 0w-20 full synthetic is pretty common now. Even Walmart sells this as their supertech brand in a 5 quart container for under $16.00. Been using this in my former Nissans for years..excellent reviews out there about the quality.
I find it amusing that the owners manual states in case of emergency one can use 5w-30...but only up to a half quart!
Overkill!
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post #6 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-15-2019, 10:19 AM
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My local dealer has done two oil changes now, not using the recommended oil. They have used 5w20 for the oil changes, and I noticed an immediate drop in economy. Using a local mom and pop shop now with the proper Castro’s oil.
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post #7 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-15-2019, 06:22 PM
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My local dealer has done two oil changes now, not using the recommended oil. They have used 5w20 for the oil changes, and I noticed an immediate drop in economy. Using a local mom and pop shop now with the proper Castro’s oil.
It gets even more interesting when you go to independent shops that are even more free to use what they want, sometimes using better grade oil.
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post #8 of 9 (permalink) Old 09-10-2019, 02:17 PM
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Should be no drop in economy for a 5w20. Stick with full synthetic oil regardless of whatever grade you choose.

I am using a 5w30 with no MPG change.

Obviously, if you stray from the 508 spec, you should NOT run the longlife oil interval. I plan on changing my oil/filter every 5000 miles. Still cheaper with Walfart sourced full synthetic oils when compared to Amazon/dealer/online oils.

The info on the 508 0w20 stated a >4% improvement in MPG when compared to a 15w40.

The 508 is a mid-saps lowish ash oil.... to protect the engine and keeps intake valve/port deposits at a minimum. Its a majority group-iv PAO based oil so you get what you pay for. This is a step up from the SN/GF5/Dexos full synthetic oils available.

Nothing in the VOA of 508 oil shows anything special and not much in marketing from all the brands concerning 'wear' protection. Many 508 oils don't even state SN or GF5 .
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Oil change kit w/VW oil, filter, plug ecs tuning $52
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